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Permalink Reply by Sakshi (Moderator) on February 24, 2014 at 10:26am

 Dear All

Please find the copy of complaint sent to Dir Doe By Mr Vohra

To
                              

Madam Padmini Singla                                    23/ 2/2014
Director Education (DOE)
Govt. of NCT of Delhi.
Civil Lines, Delhi- 110054

Subject - Tagore Int School East of Kailash and Sachdeva Public School Rohini Flouting Doe Guidelines

Respected Mam

1 TAGORE INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL, EOK HAS DECLARED A LIST OF SELECTED CANDIDATES FOR BOTH GENERAL AND GIRL QUOTA CANDIDATES,THE SCHOOL HAS CONSIDERED GIRL APPLICANTS HAVING 90 MARKS ONLY FOR GIRLS DRAW OF LOTS.THEY ARE  NOT CONSIDERING ALL THE GIRLS HAVING 70 POINTS FOR DRAW OF LOTS TO BE HELD ON 25 FEB 2014 2 TAGORE INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL, EOK IS GIVING ALL THE TWINS 90 POINTS BY DEFAULT  FOR DRAW OF LOTS  TO BE HELD ON 25 FEB 2014

Please see the link below  for the same posted on Tagore Int School's EOK Website

http://www.tagoreint.com/eok/V2.0/index.php?option=com_content&...
(2014-2015)

2  SACHDEVA  PUBLIC SCHOOL ROHINI 
 
SACHDEVA  PUBLIC SCHOOL ROHINI  IS GIVING ALL THE TWINS 90 POINTS BY DEFAULT  FOR DRAW OF LOTS

(Draw of Lots for 104 General Category open seats will be held on Wednesday, 26 February, 2014 in the school premises.)


Please see the link below  for the same posted on Sachdeva Public School  Rohini Website

 http://www.spsrohini.com/content/notice-and-list-candidates-draw-lo...

KINDLY DO THE NEEDFUL AS ONLY TWO DAYS ARE LEFT FOR DRAW OF LOTS !!

Regards

Sumit Vohra

Founder

AdmissionsNursery.com

Chairperson

Education For All (V R One )

AFTER Mr SUMIT VOHRA'S NOW ALL GIRLS WITH 70 POINTS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR LOTTERY AND ALSO 70 POINTS PARENTS LOTTERY WILL BE DONE

REVISED LIST OF CANDIDATES ON THE BASIS OF POINTS AND ELIGIBILITY FOR LOTTERYTHE LIST PUT UP ON SAT. 20 FEB 2014 IS NULLIFIED AND HENCE WITHDRAWN.

TAGORE PREPARATORY SCHOOL

EAST OF KAILASH, NEW DELHI-65

Guidelines for Pre-School (Nursery)- General Category
2014-2015

1) The draw of lots will be held on Tuesday, 25 Feb. 2014 at 9:00a.m. in the school premises .

    a) List of candidates on the basis of points for whom lottery is not required (95 and 90 points)……………….Click Here

    b) List of all registered girl candidates eligible for lottery under Girls Quota (5%)………………………………Click Here

    c) List of all candidates eligible for lottery on the basis of points- 75 points………………………………………Click Here
(The candidates not selected from the draw of lots will be waitlisted in the order of draw of lots.)

    d) List of all the candidates eligible for lottery for Wait List -70 points……………………………………………Click Here

2) ONLY ONE representative per candidate will be allowed entry in the school, to avoid overcrowding

The presence of parents/ representatives of the candidates is NOT MANDATORY at the time of draw of lots.

4) The result of lottery will be binding to all.

5) The result of draw of lots will be displayed on the school website www.tagoreint.edu.in, on the parent portal www.tiscampuscare.in and on the School Notice Board

6) Admission Criteria……………………………………………………………………….……………………………….Click Here

7) Details of Seats……………………………………………………………………….…………………………………..Click Here

8) Fee Structure……………………………………………………………………….…………………………………….Click Here

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Permalink Reply by Sakshi (Moderator) on February 24, 2014 at 10:33am

 Dear all

We are just referring to todays HC  case where survey data is being used,we are not sure  about PIL content as it will be filed after 10 am today .

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Permalink Reply by Qaisar Alam on February 24, 2014 at 10:48am

Our demands:
1-Withdraw the criterion of inter-state transfer cases which is there in the recent gubernatorial guidelines (issued by Hob’ble LG, Najeeb Jung). For nursery admission there is no justification for favouring candidates whose parents are subject to job transfers. Yes, for mid-academic sessions, students may need such favours, but for nursery class admission, this is absolutely atrocious.

2-Fix the seats slabs for general category candidates those having 95 points (Sibling + Alumni), 90 (Sibling), 75 (Alumni) and 70 points (Neighbourhood). By just awarding points does not clear the air of ambiguity as to which segment should get what percentage of seats. We demand that at least 75% seats (out of 65% general candidate seats) should be reserved for candidates having 70 points; the rest can equitably be divided between Sibling and Alumni candidates.

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Permalink Reply by Manoj on February 24, 2014 at 11:03am

I am and all of us are aginst transfer points, So we are agree on point no. 1 as mentioned in your demand

In Point No. 2, if you are saying that 75% seats must be reserved for 70 points :- This points seems to be useless and without having any base ie. Why 75%, tomorrow I can ask 90% and someone will thing it shall be 60%.  As there is no base line for this point.

Rest of your voice is good that to remove the tranfer points

As fixing the no. of seats for sibling and alumni will again create problems for parents who need to have there kids admitted in the same school where there older kids are studying, Othewise this is really difficult on daily routine to manage sending their kids for studying in 2 different schools.

Thanks for understanding

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Permalink Reply by Anuj on February 24, 2014 at 11:33am

Hi Sakshi,

 

Why DISTANCE issue ios not taken up? Transfer points are awarded every year.

If you are only giving points to Sibling and Alumni then reason this - I am from a School that is not best, but I want my kid to be in good schools and not to the one I went. If you remove transfer points then ALUMNI should also be removed and only SIBLINGS should be there.

Everything should be made a COMMON GROUND why just a TRANSFER?

Real issue is not transfer but Distance.

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Permalink Reply by Sakshi (Moderator) on February 24, 2014 at 11:44am

Anuj

Dear all

One point invalid at the last moment how distance comes in picture 4 days before results ,why no one agitated before 15 Jan and pls see TOI / Ht dated 23 Dec 2013 where only Mr Vohra had raised these points

1 Staggered /slab points for distance

2 more than 8 km radius

No one could anticipate the problems but Govt did not agree.

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Permalink Reply by Manoj on February 24, 2014 at 11:44am

Anuj

If we sit together there can be different view points of individual as in your case the point is related to distance.

But as on the date the fight is against the transfer point and everyones demand is to remove the transfer point.

I have personally visited many schools and have attended the lucky draw also, but due to this transfer points all seats get pre-filled and there is almost 0 vacancies for 70 points parents

 

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Permalink Reply by Anuj on February 24, 2014 at 11:49am

Agreed, its the distance that has made perception that Transfer is an issue.

If everyone needs to be given right justice then why Alumni is granted 5 points too?  Noone is questioning alumni points.

I went to a school I dont want my son to go, why am i forced to get 5 points when I dont want my kid to get educated from.

All parents should be applicable to apply to good schools irrespective of being an Alumni.

If remove transfer remove Alumni too and just keep Sibling as critieria.

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Permalink Reply by Himanshu Sachdeva on February 24, 2014 at 1:15pm

It is not just any transfer, but the blatant misuse of transfer. If you are from NCR and claiming transfer points just because of increasing your chances in a better school, you are misusing the system. Obviously some one who is an alumni or has a sibling naturally get preference. Alumni points will give advantage in only one school and not all schools unlike tranfer points. Rather people with unfair transfer points are even eating into chances of alumni to get their children admitted in their school. The problem is misuse of extra points for interstate transfer. These points are not serving the objective it is meant to address.

Permalink Reply by Rajneesh Joshi on February 24, 2014 at 6:08pm

Just give importance on one criteria and that is distance, and divide the points based on distance, Just like as Somerville School did.

0-1km 60

1-4km 40

4-6km 20

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Permalink Reply by Maharam Tanwar on February 24, 2014 at 10:48am

Dear All

 I am neither a parent nor grand parent, but sharing my views to bring some vital negligence on the part of government while framing these guidelines. The forum provides opportunities to aggrieved parents for the last 6-7 years. To my knowledge, I have seen 2-3 parents complaining like yours out of  around 1 lakh parents. I am not naming Mr. Vohra -  a Robinhood or Socrates, but the services he is rendering with the support of thousands of parents, compelled him to appear before the media on behalf of the parents. Media is approaching him to bring some facts on nursery admissions. The input is gathered by his team and the parents as well.  I don't think so. Reforming is a continuous process, so he does. 

Everyone has his own way of leading a life, like or dislike is other's attitude. If majority of the mass justifies one's actions, he should carry on with his aims and objectives. That is my perspective and I go with Mr. Vohra without having any personal benefit.

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Permalink Reply by Dr. LG Mitra on February 24, 2014 at 11:09am

some elses post and I like the way he reasons-

Reply by Dibyendu Sengupta 29 minutes ago


If we leave our personal issues for moment, and try to understand the logic behind the point system, there are two big points that come to mind:

- People who have traditionally lived in Delhi benefit from points like Alumni, Sibling etc.

- Therefore, people who have recently moved in to Delhi should also get some benefit. And therefore, the concept of transfer points

At the outset, this seems simple enough. However, at the closer look, we see that folks who benefit from Alumni and Sibling, get that benefit in only one (or at best a couple of schools). But the transfer cases get the benefit everywhere.

This is exactly why, the transfer points should have been given, in conjunction with something else - for example, first child points.

Lastly, I fail to understand why the moderators and other people in the forum are creating such a noise about transfer cases, but do not take into cognizance the fact that the 0-8km=70 points system is completely flawed. The location point system should have been stratified i.e. 0-1km=70 points, 1-3kms=50 points and so on. This would have given parents in proximity to schools higher weightage. And removed some of the many of the distant transfer cases.

This is exactly the system that was followed by quite a few schools last year.

If we have to make a big fuss about the transfer points, please also consider the location system. What the new criteria have done is everyone is that - people in the 8 kms radius have applied is many more schools than they would have normally. And as a results, every school has multiple 75 pointers (who are the happiest lot) and large numbers of 70 pointers (who are the unhappiest). Look at the lists of the 75 points in schools that have displayed lists - and you see the same names everywhere.

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