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Permalink Reply by Sumit Vohra (Webmaster) on
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Sandeep ji ..I am also saying the same thing ..no change this year . i think there is some confusion !!
Sandeep said:ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ARVINDER totally agree with you, this is not the time to change the system. Next year maybe not this year.
Arvinder Singh said:Hi,
I think there is a way of doing things & these random thought less decisions by government won't do good to anyone.
Firstly, government is at fault for not enforcing laws properly. Similar things have happened in previous years as well; it is not a new problem. So, this move should have been forced earlier. And even if government wants to change rules now, it should be for next year.
Secondly, one can also argue both ways as to which criteria is more fair - points for parents professionally qualified or points for distance. Lesser qualified people will say they have equal rights to good education for their children & obviously this is 100% correct. But at the same time, qualified AND unqualified parents who are living in a locality where there is no good school, can raise a similar voice for equal rights. Just because there is no good school in neighborhood, it does not mean that their children should suffer. So, either way arguments can be made.
Now, there would be many parents who have got their children admission to schools having points for professional qualifications & thus may not have pursued admission process in other schools. If their admission is canceled at this stage, it will lead to nothing but total chaos. This will also give further opportunity to schools to ask for hefty donations. Some schools may even to an extreme & take this opportunity to unfairly cancel some valid admissions to make way for people who can make good donations.
So, if government really wants to implement this immediately now (for whatever reasons), entire admission procedure across all schools should be scrapped by canceling all admissions & start again from beginning. This does not look like a feasible thing to me.
So, for now, let sanity prevail & things be as they are & ensure that process is fair to one & all from next year.
~Arvinder
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Permalink Reply by drmkathuria on
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I am monika kathuria and have app lied to 5-7 schools only .I am located in naraina vihar...neither west delhi nor south delhi is giving me points for the distance
I am an aluminus of DPS RK Puram and my elder daughter is also in the same school
my younger daughter lost in D PS R KP as naraina is not there in their list of localities and my form was rejected .... i am in naraina vihar is it my fault that 8 yrs back i was located in GK part I
anyways the only way i can into some good school in south west region is through our education/professional /govt job background ....if thats also abolished i will not stand chance anywhere
since we have no hi-fi contacts plus we have no money to throw away for nursery admissions
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Permalink Reply by Sandeep on
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Umesh I agree with you but then there has to be some criteria right? Where is it written that a brother sister of a child is the best suited to be in that school and not others. OR that if I went to DPS then my children are best suited to go there and not children of non dipsites. Points have to be and are allocated on a variety of criteria - distance alumni sibling boy girl transfer paretns education etc. What else can schools possibly use to decide whom to take? It is very easy to criticise (I am not saying you are doing that) but I challenge anyone on this site to come up with some points criteria that they feel is fair to one and all.
Umesh Mishra said:I welcome this great buy DOE move. Although I am an engineer by profession but I strongly believe that we should not discriminate children on the basis of their parent's education and profession. Who guaranties that a child of scientist will also excel in academics and become a scientist.
Malice to no one.
Thanks,
Umesh
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Ok sir maybe I misunderstood you. All I am saying is that we have come a long way from the old system of no criteria and it will take long for us to arrive at the perfect system. Let us keep working in that direction with resources like you and your website. However causing disruptions and chaos is not the right way to do it. Sumit, you sure have done a great job with this site would be really good if some of us could meet you personally sometime to express our appreciation.
Sumit Vohra (Webmaster) said:Sandeep ji ..I am also saying the same thing ..no change this year . i think there is some confusion !!
Sandeep said:ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ARVINDER totally agree with you, this is not the time to change the system. Next year maybe not this year.
Arvinder Singh said:Hi,
I think there is a way of doing things & these random thought less decisions by government won't do good to anyone.
Firstly, government is at fault for not enforcing laws properly. Similar things have happened in previous years as well; it is not a new problem. So, this move should have been forced earlier. And even if government wants to change rules now, it should be for next year.
Secondly, one can also argue both ways as to which criteria is more fair - points for parents professionally qualified or points for distance. Lesser qualified people will say they have equal rights to good education for their children & obviously this is 100% correct. But at the same time, qualified AND unqualified parents who are living in a locality where there is no good school, can raise a similar voice for equal rights. Just because there is no good school in neighborhood, it does not mean that their children should suffer. So, either way arguments can be made.
Now, there would be many parents who have got their children admission to schools having points for professional qualifications & thus may not have pursued admission process in other schools. If their admission is canceled at this stage, it will lead to nothing but total chaos. This will also give further opportunity to schools to ask for hefty donations. Some schools may even to an extreme & take this opportunity to unfairly cancel some valid admissions to make way for people who can make good donations.
So, if government really wants to implement this immediately now (for whatever reasons), entire admission procedure across all schools should be scrapped by canceling all admissions & start again from beginning. This does not look like a feasible thing to me.
So, for now, let sanity prevail & things be as they are & ensure that process is fair to one & all from next year.
~Arvinder
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Permalink Reply by Vaibhav Jain on
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Hi Sandeep,
I am in no way justifying this point system. I am also in same boat as you. We are mainly scoring profession and qualification points in different schools. We also have only one son. So i agree.. all these points are highly discrimatory. In my view, there should not be any point system for next year. Rather it should be lottery system so that everyone gets a fair chance. What I myself is looking for currently is no change in point system for this year. As removal or partial points will be very unfair for parents like us who stand some chance due to this only.
Sandeep said:JJ so what you are saying is scrap parents background points? Why do you find this discriminatory? If this is discriminatory then so are sibling points? So are alumni points? Also for your information none for these private schools get any grants from DOE. I think Sumit and his website are doing a wonderful job but tell me JJ if you were to create the points system how will you do it - on what basis? Can you suggest a split of 100 points which according to you is non-discriminatory?
JJ said:Hi Sandeep,
I totally understand your views and agrees also partially. But Sumit ji is just trying to help. Its all actually DOE fault. They have not issued any clear guidelines to schools and if they have, they have not enforced it properly. Schools have been taking DOE very very lightly. I think Doe still should take action against erring schools by reducing any grants or levying penalty etc so that they take a lesson and take the guidelines seriously. Sumit ji has just been putting schools erring behaviour in front of DOE from time to time and that should be done. But DOE should be wise enough to use the info in correct manner so that no one suffers. School admission should be an impartial and logical process. The way DOE has designed the point system, it has left full scope for schools to manipulate it to their benefit. Also, the point system is very discriminatory. Except distance, i dont think any other is point is non discriminatory.
So definitely, DOE should take action on all the feedbacks making sure children and parents dont suffer and schools also get a lesson.
Sandeep said:Sumit your website was the one which propogated that these point should be removed and are unfair and now you are asking parents who are affected to get up and ask you for help. I think you are also adding a lot of confusion to the already existing confusion. It is quite fair for schools to keep some points for the parents background. Tomorrow we will say WHY NEIGHBORHOOD? WHY ALUMNI? WHY SIBLING? BEST WOULD BE EVERYONE APPLIES AND SCHOOLS DO LUCKY DRAW ONLY? If some of us have studied and worked hard all our lives OBVIOULSY WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO REAP THE BENEFIT RIGHT?? I SUGGEST WE BEHAVE RESPONSIBLY AND DO THESE ENDLESS DEBATES ONCE THIS ROUND OF ADMISSIONS IS OVER NOT NOW. FOR NEXT YEAR WE CAN HAVE A BIG DEBATE AND THEN DECIDE BUT AT THIS LAST MOMENT IT IS TOTALLY CRAZY.
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Hahaha JJ I don't agree at all with you!! Lottery system for admissions is SO INAPPROPRIATE!! These are not DDA Flats being alloted.
JJ said:Hi Sandeep,
I am in no way justifying this point system. I am also in same boat as you. We are mainly scoring profession and qualification points in different schools. We also have only one son. So i agree.. all these points are highly discrimatory. In my view, there should not be any point system for next year. Rather it should be lottery system so that everyone gets a fair chance. What I myself is looking for currently is no change in point system for this year. As removal or partial points will be very unfair for parents like us who stand some chance due to this only.
Sandeep said:JJ so what you are saying is scrap parents background points? Why do you find this discriminatory? If this is discriminatory then so are sibling points? So are alumni points? Also for your information none for these private schools get any grants from DOE. I think Sumit and his website are doing a wonderful job but tell me JJ if you were to create the points system how will you do it - on what basis? Can you suggest a split of 100 points which according to you is non-discriminatory?
JJ said:Hi Sandeep,
I totally understand your views and agrees also partially. But Sumit ji is just trying to help. Its all actually DOE fault. They have not issued any clear guidelines to schools and if they have, they have not enforced it properly. Schools have been taking DOE very very lightly. I think Doe still should take action against erring schools by reducing any grants or levying penalty etc so that they take a lesson and take the guidelines seriously. Sumit ji has just been putting schools erring behaviour in front of DOE from time to time and that should be done. But DOE should be wise enough to use the info in correct manner so that no one suffers. School admission should be an impartial and logical process. The way DOE has designed the point system, it has left full scope for schools to manipulate it to their benefit. Also, the point system is very discriminatory. Except distance, i dont think any other is point is non discriminatory.
So definitely, DOE should take action on all the feedbacks making sure children and parents dont suffer and schools also get a lesson.
Sandeep said:Sumit your website was the one which propogated that these point should be removed and are unfair and now you are asking parents who are affected to get up and ask you for help. I think you are also adding a lot of confusion to the already existing confusion. It is quite fair for schools to keep some points for the parents background. Tomorrow we will say WHY NEIGHBORHOOD? WHY ALUMNI? WHY SIBLING? BEST WOULD BE EVERYONE APPLIES AND SCHOOLS DO LUCKY DRAW ONLY? If some of us have studied and worked hard all our lives OBVIOULSY WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO REAP THE BENEFIT RIGHT?? I SUGGEST WE BEHAVE RESPONSIBLY AND DO THESE ENDLESS DEBATES ONCE THIS ROUND OF ADMISSIONS IS OVER NOT NOW. FOR NEXT YEAR WE CAN HAVE A BIG DEBATE AND THEN DECIDE BUT AT THIS LAST MOMENT IT IS TOTALLY CRAZY.
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well.. if every kid has equal right of education irrespective of any factor, then lottery system is not bad. Any point system will be unfair to some section of parents.
Sandeep said:Hahaha JJ I don't agree at all with you!! Lottery system for admissions is SO INAPPROPRIATE!! These are not DDA Flats being alloted.
JJ said:Hi Sandeep,
I am in no way justifying this point system. I am also in same boat as you. We are mainly scoring profession and qualification points in different schools. We also have only one son. So i agree.. all these points are highly discrimatory. In my view, there should not be any point system for next year. Rather it should be lottery system so that everyone gets a fair chance. What I myself is looking for currently is no change in point system for this year. As removal or partial points will be very unfair for parents like us who stand some chance due to this only.
Sandeep said:JJ so what you are saying is scrap parents background points? Why do you find this discriminatory? If this is discriminatory then so are sibling points? So are alumni points? Also for your information none for these private schools get any grants from DOE. I think Sumit and his website are doing a wonderful job but tell me JJ if you were to create the points system how will you do it - on what basis? Can you suggest a split of 100 points which according to you is non-discriminatory?
JJ said:Hi Sandeep,
I totally understand your views and agrees also partially. But Sumit ji is just trying to help. Its all actually DOE fault. They have not issued any clear guidelines to schools and if they have, they have not enforced it properly. Schools have been taking DOE very very lightly. I think Doe still should take action against erring schools by reducing any grants or levying penalty etc so that they take a lesson and take the guidelines seriously. Sumit ji has just been putting schools erring behaviour in front of DOE from time to time and that should be done. But DOE should be wise enough to use the info in correct manner so that no one suffers. School admission should be an impartial and logical process. The way DOE has designed the point system, it has left full scope for schools to manipulate it to their benefit. Also, the point system is very discriminatory. Except distance, i dont think any other is point is non discriminatory.
So definitely, DOE should take action on all the feedbacks making sure children and parents dont suffer and schools also get a lesson.
Sandeep said:Sumit your website was the one which propogated that these point should be removed and are unfair and now you are asking parents who are affected to get up and ask you for help. I think you are also adding a lot of confusion to the already existing confusion. It is quite fair for schools to keep some points for the parents background. Tomorrow we will say WHY NEIGHBORHOOD? WHY ALUMNI? WHY SIBLING? BEST WOULD BE EVERYONE APPLIES AND SCHOOLS DO LUCKY DRAW ONLY? If some of us have studied and worked hard all our lives OBVIOULSY WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO REAP THE BENEFIT RIGHT?? I SUGGEST WE BEHAVE RESPONSIBLY AND DO THESE ENDLESS DEBATES ONCE THIS ROUND OF ADMISSIONS IS OVER NOT NOW. FOR NEXT YEAR WE CAN HAVE A BIG DEBATE AND THEN DECIDE BUT AT THIS LAST MOMENT IT IS TOTALLY CRAZY.
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Sunil what is wrong. Can you pls tell me whta is the right way to do it. Can you pls tell me how 100 admission points should be split? What criteria should schools follow?
Sunil said:Why next year. A thief breaks your house and you catch him red handed. Will you ask him go ahead go and ROB but do not ROB next time!
This is stupid. You have realised that something is wrong, correct it immedialet why next year.
Sandeep said:Ok sir maybe I misunderstood you. All I am saying is that we have come a long way from the old system of no criteria and it will take long for us to arrive at the perfect system. Let us keep working in that direction with resources like you and your website. However causing disruptions and chaos is not the right way to do it. Sumit, you sure have done a great job with this site would be really good if some of us could meet you personally sometime to express our appreciation.
Sumit Vohra (Webmaster) said:Sandeep ji ..I am also saying the same thing ..no change this year . i think there is some confusion !!
Sandeep said:ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ARVINDER totally agree with you, this is not the time to change the system. Next year maybe not this year.
Arvinder Singh said:Hi,
I think there is a way of doing things & these random thought less decisions by government won't do good to anyone.
Firstly, government is at fault for not enforcing laws properly. Similar things have happened in previous years as well; it is not a new problem. So, this move should have been forced earlier. And even if government wants to change rules now, it should be for next year.
Secondly, one can also argue both ways as to which criteria is more fair - points for parents professionally qualified or points for distance. Lesser qualified people will say they have equal rights to good education for their children & obviously this is 100% correct. But at the same time, qualified AND unqualified parents who are living in a locality where there is no good school, can raise a similar voice for equal rights. Just because there is no good school in neighborhood, it does not mean that their children should suffer. So, either way arguments can be made.
Now, there would be many parents who have got their children admission to schools having points for professional qualifications & thus may not have pursued admission process in other schools. If their admission is canceled at this stage, it will lead to nothing but total chaos. This will also give further opportunity to schools to ask for hefty donations. Some schools may even to an extreme & take this opportunity to unfairly cancel some valid admissions to make way for people who can make good donations.
So, if government really wants to implement this immediately now (for whatever reasons), entire admission procedure across all schools should be scrapped by canceling all admissions & start again from beginning. This does not look like a feasible thing to me.
So, for now, let sanity prevail & things be as they are & ensure that process is fair to one & all from next year.
~Arvinder
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(Disclaimer: haven't read page 4/5/6 of this discussion yet. won't get a chance till evening)
Sunil ji.
You didn't get into the school near your house, may be, because they had low points for neighbourhood. that is the root cause. NOT your professional background.
I said earlier and I repeat (please read my earlier comment): EACH AND EVERY CRITERION in the point system is to discriminate. The minute you have 100 seats and 1000 applications you NEED TO DISCRIMINATE! Now the question is what is a valid parameter for discrimination and what is not?
If the schools want to give higher preference to, say, kids with doctor parents so be it. But as long as they have points for other criteria like "distance/girl/alumni/sibling" and so on I think it is still a fair game.
I will try to post longer response in the evening...sorry for the rushed response.
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JJ then let us also start demanding lottery system for getting into DU or for IIT or for IIM. We all have equal rights for education.
JJ said:well.. if every kid has equal right of education irrespective of any factor, then lottery system is not bad. Any point system will be unfair to some section of parents.
Sandeep said:Hahaha JJ I don't agree at all with you!! Lottery system for admissions is SO INAPPROPRIATE!! These are not DDA Flats being alloted.
JJ said:Hi Sandeep,
I am in no way justifying this point system. I am also in same boat as you. We are mainly scoring profession and qualification points in different schools. We also have only one son. So i agree.. all these points are highly discrimatory. In my view, there should not be any point system for next year. Rather it should be lottery system so that everyone gets a fair chance. What I myself is looking for currently is no change in point system for this year. As removal or partial points will be very unfair for parents like us who stand some chance due to this only.
Sandeep said:JJ so what you are saying is scrap parents background points? Why do you find this discriminatory? If this is discriminatory then so are sibling points? So are alumni points? Also for your information none for these private schools get any grants from DOE. I think Sumit and his website are doing a wonderful job but tell me JJ if you were to create the points system how will you do it - on what basis? Can you suggest a split of 100 points which according to you is non-discriminatory?
JJ said:Hi Sandeep,
I totally understand your views and agrees also partially. But Sumit ji is just trying to help. Its all actually DOE fault. They have not issued any clear guidelines to schools and if they have, they have not enforced it properly. Schools have been taking DOE very very lightly. I think Doe still should take action against erring schools by reducing any grants or levying penalty etc so that they take a lesson and take the guidelines seriously. Sumit ji has just been putting schools erring behaviour in front of DOE from time to time and that should be done. But DOE should be wise enough to use the info in correct manner so that no one suffers. School admission should be an impartial and logical process. The way DOE has designed the point system, it has left full scope for schools to manipulate it to their benefit. Also, the point system is very discriminatory. Except distance, i dont think any other is point is non discriminatory.
So definitely, DOE should take action on all the feedbacks making sure children and parents dont suffer and schools also get a lesson.
Sandeep said:Sumit your website was the one which propogated that these point should be removed and are unfair and now you are asking parents who are affected to get up and ask you for help. I think you are also adding a lot of confusion to the already existing confusion. It is quite fair for schools to keep some points for the parents background. Tomorrow we will say WHY NEIGHBORHOOD? WHY ALUMNI? WHY SIBLING? BEST WOULD BE EVERYONE APPLIES AND SCHOOLS DO LUCKY DRAW ONLY? If some of us have studied and worked hard all our lives OBVIOULSY WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO REAP THE BENEFIT RIGHT?? I SUGGEST WE BEHAVE RESPONSIBLY AND DO THESE ENDLESS DEBATES ONCE THIS ROUND OF ADMISSIONS IS OVER NOT NOW. FOR NEXT YEAR WE CAN HAVE A BIG DEBATE AND THEN DECIDE BUT AT THIS LAST MOMENT IT IS TOTALLY CRAZY.
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There should not be any change in point system this year, since it is too late. We are professionals and applied only in those schools who gives the points to qualification. Had it been otherwise, i would have applied in other schools of my vicinity.
So this should be prospectively.
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DPS Vasant Kunj -Qualification - 0 , Profession - Govt service - 10
DPS RK Puram - qualification- 0 , Profession - Govt Srvice - 20 ( 10 marks each parent)
GD Goenka VK - Qualification - 10 each for PostGraduation ( 20 total for both parents) , 8 each for graduation & 6 each for school pass outs.
Vasant Valley -proven Track Record ( does not ask specifically in which filed though) - 25
Heritage VK- Qulaification- 15 each parent for Post Graduation( 30 in total) , Profession - Govt. Service - 10
( SPRINGDALES - NOT allocating any point for education or profession), Sri Ram ( NO Allocation of Edu & Profession points)
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