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Mr Sumit Vohra Calls for more transparency in lottery process for admissions~Hindustan Times 11 Jan
Call for more transparency in lottery process for admissions
NEW DELHI: When Rajan Taneja (name changed) took his son for admission to a prominent school in south Delhi, he was told by the authorities that he would be notified later, once the draw of lots had been conducted. An unsuspecting Taneja hoped for the best, only to be told later that his son had not made it to the first list of the school.
“I was new to the city then. It was only much later that I got to know that the lottery had to be conducted in our presence,” he said. This year though, with his daughter ready to step into school, Taneja is wiser.
Taneja is one of the several parents who have called for greater transparency in the lottery process.
“Schools tell parents that they have representatives from the Parent-Teachers’ Association on the selection committee and that the lottery would be conducted in their presence, making the presence of the wards’ parents redundant. This is unethical. The process needs to be transparent, for which we have approached the education minister as well,” said Sumit Vohra, founder of www.admissionsnursery.com.
Schools, however, rubbished such claims, stating that the highest degree of transparency was observed during the lottery process.
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PRINCIPAL QUOTES IN DIFFERENT ARTICLES (EARLIER)
Lottery system lacks transparency(Newspaper)
January 28, 2011 6:31:55 AM
Staff Reporter | New Delhi
It seems that the lottery method adopted by schools to select students for nursery has not gone well with parents. Many parents alleged that this method has reduced the transparency in the nursery admissions procedure. Many schools which conducted a draw of lots for general category for nursery admissions are facing the same charges. Notably, the lottery system has been introduced in the nursery admission procedure from the current session.
A parent who had applied to Bal Bharti Public School, Rohini said, “The school conducted a lottery for nursery applicants on Thursday, but I was not even informed about it. This is so vague. According to my calculations, I must have scored 45 points. I am hearing that the school called up the parents of students who scored 45 points.” Bal Bharti Public School, Rohini conducted a draw of lots for all applicants who scored 45 points on Thursday. The school conducted a draw because there was a tie among many applicants at 45 points.
Another parent, a resident of Dwarka, said, “There are many schools which are not calling the parents at the time of conducting the draw. I think it is their duty to call us at that time because ultimately it is the future of our child that is at stake.”
Citing an example, the parent added that Mount Carmel School, Dwarka conducted a draw without calling the parents. However, the parent added, “I found the system at Bal Bharti Public School, Dwarka fair because they called me on January 25 when they conducted a draw for 356 students who had scored 45 points each.” There are 101 seats for the general category at Bal Bharti Public School, Dwarka.
Sumit Vohra, the founder of admissionsnursery.com, said, “The schools should call the parents when they conduct a draw for the nursery admissions. Not calling the parents at the time of draw indicates that the lottery system lacks transparency.”
Similarly, Laxman Public School, Hauz Khas also conducted a draw of lots for applicants in the general category who scored 65 points. The website of the school clearly says that there were more than 1,000 applicants who scored 65 points so, draw of lots was conducted for them by the executive council members of the Parents Teachers Association (PTA) on Thursday. Raman Sharma, who had applied here for his three-year-old son said, “This is unfair. The school should have informed us.”
Laxman Public School Principal Usha Ram said, “We conducted a draw in front of the PTA for the general category. There was no need to call the parents in this case. Parents are to be called only when we conduct a draw for the economically weaker sections (EWS) category.”
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Permalink Reply by Sakshi (Moderator) on
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For Urgent Pursual of (Director Education)-Subject |Status of Show Cause Notice served to schools on my complaint and Request for Observers and Monitoring Committee for Draw of lots for Gen Category Parents as some school says it is not mandatory for them to call parents for draw of lots ((Marked to Delhi Chief Minister/Delhi Education Minister/Education Secretary/DCPCR)
12/29/13 (13 days ago)
To
29 Dec 2013
Director Education (DOE)
Govt. of NCT of Delhi.
Civil Lines, Delhi- 110054
Respected Sir
Point No 1Show cause notice was served to four school after i highlighted the following issues1 Mt Carmel for keeping Min 3.5 yrs age criteria for Nursery for 2013-142 Modern School, Amity Saket, Gyan Bharti for flouting RTE and screening children for admission in different classes in 2013-14 session
What was the action taken or their reply .Sir Please Update meWill Mt Carmel keep Min 3yrs as age Criteria this year ?Point No 2
As per new pre-primary for 2014-2015 guidelines it is evident after admission of siblings and few alumni/transfer cases it will become lottery system for rest of general catory
1 All the parents getting 70 points would be tie and number of parents would be in thousands..Draw of lots in most of the schools except
So it is indirect lottery for the parents without sibling /alumni /transfer points
We would be having thousand of parents who have to go for draw of lots in every school who have 70 points.
Its is not the case of few schools but most of the schools..How DOE will make it sure that Draw of lots is transparent even the manipulations done can fooled video graphy done by DOE
As this year most of the admissions will be through Draw of lots ,DOE should make it sure that all lottery is done by parents and chits are hand written by parents
But many big schools /small schools like Laxman Public School and many others has been doing it in absence of parents from many years and justification they give is
1 They cannot accomodate 1000 parents
2 They did in front of PTA(representative who are under school influence)
My point is when they earn in lakh/crores ..even if they dont have auditorium ..cannot they hire any DDA community center or hall for few hours for few thousands Rupees
We got many complaints on forum regarding different schools
HOW LOTTERY ARE MANIPULATED ( FEW WAYS WHICH DOE CAMERA CANNOT CATCH)
1 THE CHILDREN YOU WANT TO BE SELECTED ..THEIR NAME IS WRITTEN OF THICK PAPER (IN ABSENCE OF PARENTS YOU CAN MAINPULATED EVEN IF APPLICATIONS ARE IN THOUSANDS)
2 WRITE THEIR NAME TO BE SELECTED ON TEXTURE PAPERand many more ways
WHY AM I RAISING THIS ISSUE ?
BECAUSE THIS YEAR IT IS INDIRECT LOTTERY AND SCHOOLS SHOULD BE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS ALL LOTTERY IN FRONT OF PARENTS AND LET THEM WRITE THEIR NAME AND AT RANDOM ..SCHOOL OR PARENTS CAN TAKE OUT THE LIST.
( NO MANIPULATION POSSIBLE EVEN IF THEY WRITE ON THICK PAPER/ MOREOVER THEY CANNOT WRITE AS ALL PARENTS HAVE TO IN FRONT OF SCHOOL REP)
WE HAVE RAISED VOICE WITH DIRECTOR DOE (Imet him in person on 9 feb 2011) AND LOT OF COMPLAINTS OF PARENTS IN MEDIA BUT NO NOTIFICATION BY DOE ..EVEN SOME ISSUED NOT FOLLOWED ...VIDEOGRAPHY CAN BE MANIPULATED
LAST IT SHOULD NOT BE MANDATORY FOR PARENT TO BE PRESENT IN EVERY DRAW OF LOTS AS MANY CLASH OF DATES EXPECTED THIS YEAR...(SOME VERY BIG SOUTH DELHI SCHOOL KEEP THIS CONDITION ALSO)
My suggestions
1 Observers for all the lottery for General Cat2 Monitoring committee as we have already started getting complaints from parents that some schools are asking for Rs 25 k donation to reserve the seats3 Video Graphy mandatory for all lottery
Hope you will do the Needful ASAP.
********************************************See the link which shows schools having been doing it from long time till last year (see parents complaints)
http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-delhi-parents-up...PARENTS COMPLAINTS AND QUOTES OF SCHOOLS PRINCIPALS (PUBLISHED IN NEWSPAPERS)Please see some Principals Quotes and parents complaints below (Also News Paper article)
Laxman Public School, draw conducted without intimation to parents - so unfair !!
on 15th Feb, they have published a notice on their website after the draw was conducted... None of us, the parents, were aware of such a thing was planned by the school.... their notice read as:
"Lottery was taken out by the members of PTA EC Body from 55 and 50 points to maintain the ratio of boys and girls for 1st list and wait list."
do you think that it is fair they conducted draw with their existing PTA body?
I dis-agree with it.
have messaged to the times of india's journalist about it today!
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Comment by Vijay Kashyap on February 23, 2013 at 10:28am
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All school should follow the transparent systems or give fare chance to every student. They should give the proper information to parents about each & every step of admission.
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Comment by PET on February 20, 2013 at 11:26pm
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the pta must not hv been involved in it.the principal just to save herself has named pta for the matter.the pta people too hv their kids in the school.the pta selection too is done by the principal. it may b 1-2 pta member whom she would taken her to safeguard himself not the whole body.also the pta's r being given spl. treatments apart from other parents at her school functions, giving them a VIP treatment, saperate seating arrangement, spl snacks etc.some of them r part of her personal relationships.
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The admission process / Lottery should be transparency and equal opportunity to all applicants.
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Comment by Lathaa Manavalan on February 17, 2013 at 5:36pm
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PTA body can Monitor the functioning of the school, work out for School Development Plan
and Ensure teacher accountablitity but instead it's really shocking draw was done by the PTA body.
PTA body is set us to make the system transparent and in no way the school can allow PTA body to select candidates to carry a draw without parents presence.
Parents should oppose this act and it is very serious matter too which has to addressed. It is totally an unfair system adopted by the school.
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I can't understand why 55 n 50 points? Why they not consider 15 points for 1st born child??
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Permalink Reply by Manisha Gupta on
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ya actually i also want to know how they calculate the points and the candidate having maximum points are only be a part of lottery system. or they have some criteria that for these eligible points either it will be for e.g. 80 or 85 or 70 or 75 points all will be a part of the lottery system.
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Just a suggestion is it possible to outsource the admission procedure of individual schools to data processing companies.. so that school do not interfere in the selection procedure
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Ya this is a very good suggestion i feel
Lottery shud be fair n transparent..
I feel there shud be some rules for lottery system as well..tht shud be followed by all schools
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Sakshi plz help me in this. We are staying in dwarka but our permanent residence is in Safdarjung enclave which is still under construction. I am trying fr my daughter's admission in any good south Delhi school in class 1st but there are no chances fr our shifting to sj enclave before 1.5 year. Plz advice.
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