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Permalink Reply by 3pq7krak17cij on January 31, 2011 at 1:08am

we are the chosen guinea pigs to be experimented with...

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Permalink Reply by 2mk7ekw3291yj on January 28, 2011 at 8:35pm

The only one solution to this current problem (child : seat ratio- 35:1)-- the govt  have to upgrade govt. schools up to level of these private schools. Benefits- ratio of child : seat will narrow, the monopoly of these school mafia will end.

But why govt. is not doing this ?? probable causes- heavy money inflow from pvt. school corner, most politicians have investments in these private schools, most builders have investments in these private schools.

Govt. also know how to rule we general people. as we have a trend: we stop talking & take aside when our own demand is fulfilled. For example- an injured person on road how many of us come out of car & take the needy person to hospital rather inside the car we blame bad traffic (*This was the example given by one of IAS) & thats true also. Govt knows this fact that this storm will stop  after 15 days.

Also this is the time for some ministers to gain importance through media (Before oct. 2010 i asked one gentle man who is mr. lovely he told builder ., i again asked NO  No in Govt. - He told probably transport minister. I again asked in jan  He told me even my kid know who is lovely.

Now we have to decide who will become next decision maker? the person who know the value of education, the person who know the value of each kid's future as each kid is lifeline of their parents. Lets wait for that time & of course we will have to take collectively decision in next election that we are not a mob we general parents are the pillars.

 

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Permalink Reply by 3ho9ccu20kx1b on January 28, 2011 at 9:05pm

I totally agree & appreciate your feedback on Education system:-

 

1.Up-gradation of Govt Schools can be first step- as Govt is paying heavily to their school teachers ie from taxpayers money but teachers recruitments is  also a big question mark.If Govt really work upon Govt schooling then these Pvt schools have to come in market to attract students like Many engineering colleges in NCR do.

 

2 DOE should design uniform Points table for every school.

 

Changing Govt will won't do anything as all are same.That's why we want our child to study & take their place -assuming younger India will be more rational in Voting decision.

 

 

 

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Permalink Reply by bijendra on January 28, 2011 at 9:31pm

Good thoughts Dr.Dharmendra & Ritu ji...

yes in the current era of market oriented economy the long established pvt. schools must be given competition through upliftment of govt./MCD/Central schools...The govt. had dreamt earlier same through Jawahar Navodaya Schools in all hinterlands throught the country..this can be done in Delhi too...but as you rightly said it requires a sincere affirmative action with strong will power from Govt..

..currently also many govt. schools come out with good results in CBSE X & XII stds..but we the educated middle class (however we are educated through the central/govt.schools) do not favour them and die for the public/pvt. schools in one or other pretexts...the societal & peer pressure is so much prevalent that we think govt. school educated kid shall have a less successful career than his/her public school counter part...but see the academic life of a student is full of competitions throught his education...and we face another set of competition after 12th std....then can we differ through which type of school a kid has come through when the level is same for all to clear?...we see that IITs/NITs/good medical colleges all having a good mix of students through all types of schools and sometimes more favourable towards those came through govt. schooling...what does it mean??..it's simple that still good govt. schools do exist & good teachers are there in every govt. school but the govt./CBSE board/NCERT must also focus on the betterment of these schools by providing good infrastructure, innovative learning pedagogy, updated curriculum, regular teachers' reviews& training, congenial learning environment in the schools, emphasis on English as a medium of education with ample focus on Hindi and other vernacular languages, exposing these schools to inter schools competitions in sports, cocurriculars, maths/science olampiads, students exchange programs with the best ones overseas and last but not the least engaging parents in every aspects school activities to make it a collaborative mode of learning---we are sure with such existing huge fund inflows into the education sector, money is not a problem...if only govt. and public both show a willingness we can have a sustainable effective primary education system at affordable cost benchmarked with the best in world...

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Permalink Reply by Lathaa Manavalan on January 28, 2011 at 11:38pm

Its a great food for thought to Govt. Yes Upgradation is the only way. Few days back our great Ratan Tata invested in Harvard instead you should have invested in Delhi Govt. Schools. If they take out corrupted money out itself we can get a good solution. I feel State Regulation Body for Pre-School is needed to look all matters.

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Permalink Reply by Anand on January 29, 2011 at 3:18pm

@Dharmendraji: I took this opportunity to actually go and visit a neighbourhood Govt school (rohini near japanese park adjacent sector 9) for the sake of our maid; since she couldn't understand what they were asking. I was pleasantly surprised by their school infrastructure - it is no lesser than any moderate private school. I met a class 10th Maths teacher there. The gentleman took the time out to not only help me, but also patiently answered questions of other parents (most of whom were illiterate). He was having to repeat himself a lot but was extremely patient and caring! He told me how stressed out they were and how much extra work they have to do compared to Private schools. Not only that - they're also held responsible for producing results and are answerable if students do not perform decently well. I don't know whether this Govt school is an exception or just an apparation. But if the other schools are even 75% of what I saw here, I must say the Govt has done a commendable job. The only problem I can see is lack of environment for students to study in (at home?) and peer guidance for the children. The only possible reason we might not send our kids is the environment. The infrastructure and faculty seem to be first rate and more than eager to help .. anybody else here taken the pains to visit a neighbourhood Govt school? Or did I see too much into my first and only meeting?

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Permalink Reply by 2ed38czvhudhi on January 28, 2011 at 9:46pm

Brij Ji

 

good thoughts amd money is also not a problem . But does the corrupt system guarantee to save money that is termed as 'Black Money'

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Permalink Reply by 2mk7ekw3291yj on January 28, 2011 at 10:34pm

In my opinion : Corruption is a relative term rather than absolute.The time we feel pressure is unbearable we feel pain. same is with corruption.

if the three basic things will be provided to middle class educated family then every one will be satisfied for a while / for a generation at least-

1) Basic education up to a level where a child discover its own talent to survive whether its private / govt. 

2) Basic govt. health system up to a level where no disability / mortality occur if you have no money to pay big hospital bills.

3) Of course basic & healthy food  to a growing child.

But really we are sorry that we are devoid of these benefits despite serving as a responsible citizen (paying regular taxes, abide to rules like waiting for 1 hr. for a VIP to pass even if a patient is dying in govt. hospital waiting for a govt.doctor, paying special attention to power holders ignoring the needy one) & also a responsible father ( to take a form from school waiting in line from 8 am on first week of jan and when our turn came at 12 o'clock the lady in counter said come tomorrow & of course in line again at 7:45 am next day; Hearing the fact that if you don't have caliber to pay 500 for form how you can give tuition fee of your kid & in backmind doing calculation to do compromise for kid's future, going in lucky draw of lots & returning like a defeated soldier and next day ready for another draw of lots) .

Its not that world's highest economy (USA) or world's highest populated state (china) has no corruption but they had at least provided / tried honestly to provide these 3 basics to middle class.Lets hope best for the future when we will be given our basic rights.......

 

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Permalink Reply by bijendra on January 28, 2011 at 11:04pm

ya truly said doctor sir

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Permalink Reply by Shweta Shailendra on January 29, 2011 at 11:26am

I guess we all are moving away from the current problem. I had applied to 22 schools...in the dream/reach/safe category. Out of the results that have come till now....I have not qualified into any school. My child is a first born boy. Both of us, me and my husband are professionally qualified, but we do not have an alumni quota, as we have moved here from a different city. We fall under no category and except that we are able to have around 5 or at the max 10 points given by schools for the first born.  The problem is.....by looking at the point trends, I am not sure If I'll be able to make it to any school or not. Does the govt have any answer, if my child is unable to make it to any of the schools??

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Permalink Reply by Aparna Raman on January 29, 2011 at 9:23am

How is sovereign school Rohini? They have asked to submit fees by 1st Feb. Has anyone else got a call?

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Permalink Reply by 098s2y3cgk1i7 on January 29, 2011 at 11:39am

i got the call, but last day of paying fees is 3rd. its shortlisting of the chldren, what they have done, they will display shortlisted children name on 1st. not much clue about school. it was discussed in this thread earlier that its managemet is jindal family probably same as jindal school, rohini. schools building is good, that u must have seen.

 

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